What We Do With Experience

What We Do With Experience
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What We Do With Experience

Oct 15 2026 | 00:20:49

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Episode 0 • October 15, 2026 • 00:20:49

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I touched a hot oven when I was a little boy, even after my parents warned me. I knew the words hot and burn, but experience gave them meaning. That memory led me to think about how we learn from everyday life, from failure, and from the people around us. I'll share a lesson from mentoring new managers and another from a photography class that changed how I understand perspective. Along the way, I want us to consider a question: Are we simply collecting experiences, or are we learning from them as we continue becoming who we're intended to be?
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[00:00:03] One of the first experiences I remember happened when I was pretty young. [00:00:11] My parents kept telling me not to touch the oven door. [00:00:16] They'd tell me, it's hot, it'll burn. [00:00:21] Now I understood the words hot and and burn, or at least I thought I did. [00:00:32] But apparently I needed a little more information. [00:00:36] I needed to experience it, to understand it. [00:00:41] So I touched the oven door. [00:00:45] And suddenly those two words meant something they hadn't meant a few seconds ago. [00:00:52] I had experienced hot. [00:00:55] I had experienced burn. [00:00:58] And if I remember it correctly, I never touched that oven door again. [00:01:08] My parents had told me exactly what would happen. [00:01:13] They weren't wrong. [00:01:15] I just had to experience it for myself. [00:01:22] Maybe that's one of the interesting things about experience. [00:01:27] Someone can tell us something. [00:01:29] They can even go so far as explain it to us. [00:01:34] They can even warn us about it. [00:01:39] Sometimes there's a difference between knowing something because we've been told and understanding something because we've experienced it. [00:01:51] How about you? Have you ever had something happen that made you suddenly understand what someone had been trying to tell you all along? [00:02:03] When we hear the word experience, I think it's easy for us to think about all the experiences we've accumulated over the years. [00:02:16] Now, if I wanted to tell someone about my professional experience, I could hand them my resume. [00:02:27] Most resumes are really a record of experience. [00:02:33] Companies we've worked for, responsibilities we've accepted, things we've accomplished and the value we've added. [00:02:46] But I've come to believe that resumes tell only a small part of the story. [00:02:54] The reason I believe that experience comes from far more places than simply employment. [00:03:04] It comes from people we've known, things we've tried, things that worked, things that didn't work, conversations, faith, hobbies, reading, education, travel, observation, and simply ordinary everyday life. [00:03:33] Some of those experiences probably didn't seem particularly important when they happened. [00:03:44] Sometimes it isn't until much later that we begin to understand what we've learned from them. [00:03:55] I spent years looking over people's resume. [00:04:00] Some of our newer managers had been promoted from within the company, and they had very little experience interviewing candidates or making hiring decisions. [00:04:12] So sometimes I would sit with them while they were interviewing a candidate. [00:04:20] I let them conduct the interview, and if there's a question that hadn't been asked, something we really needed to know, I could ask that question in a curious way. [00:04:33] Now, I never asked the question in a manner that made them look bad or caused them to feel inadequate, didn't want to do that, ask it simply as something I wanted to know and Understand? [00:04:52] When you think about it now, there's something interesting about what was happening. [00:04:58] The managers were gaining experience while they were evaluating someone else's experience. [00:05:08] Like I said, I. I could sit beside them. [00:05:12] I could listen to the questions they asked, I could ask something they missed. [00:05:18] And afterward we could discuss the candidates and the interview. [00:05:27] But here's the thing. [00:05:30] I couldn't give them my years of interviewing and management experience. [00:05:38] I could share what my experience had taught me, and perhaps I could use my experience to help them develop theirs. [00:05:50] But they still had to experience it for themselves. [00:05:55] And maybe that's true in a lot of other areas of our lives. [00:06:02] We can learn from someone else's experience. [00:06:09] We can listen to what they've learned, we can take their advice. [00:06:16] But at some point, we have to take what we've been given and do something with it ourselves. [00:06:29] I feel like there's an important distinction there. [00:06:33] We can't give someone our experience, but we can share what our experience has taught us. [00:06:43] Pretty simple. [00:06:46] And the thing is, what we share may become part of someone else's experience. [00:06:54] Now, not every experience we have is positive. [00:07:02] Now, I've talked about failure before. [00:07:08] Suppose we try something once and we fail. [00:07:15] That experience might come cause us to simply say, I can't do that. [00:07:22] But maybe, maybe that's not what the experience was actually telling us. [00:07:32] Maybe it was telling us, I can't do it this way. [00:07:37] Now, those are really two very different lessons, if you think about it. The first one can cause us to stop. [00:07:48] The second one can cause us to ask questions. [00:07:54] What can we learn from that failure? [00:07:59] What can we change? [00:08:02] What can we adjust? [00:08:07] I truly don't believe every failure is telling us to stop. [00:08:16] Sometimes I think it's just simply telling us that something needs to be changed before we try again. [00:08:29] I think for us, that should raise another question. [00:08:39] The question is, have we ever allowed one experience, one experience, to convince us that we couldn't do something? [00:08:54] Maybe all it was really telling us was that we needed to try it differently. [00:09:02] Think about that. [00:09:04] Because I believe much of life may be an experience followed by an adjustment, followed by another experience. [00:09:17] And those experiences, Some of us don't understand. [00:09:31] At times I found myself wondering, do experiences need to be dramatic? [00:09:43] I don't think so, because most of the time they're simply part of what happens through our ordinary lives. [00:09:56] But there's something else I've come to appreciate about experience. [00:10:04] There's times that we don't really understand what we've learned until we look at something from a different perspective. [00:10:16] Now, one of the best lessons I ever learned about perspective came through photography. [00:10:23] Now, when it comes to photography, I started with a Polaroid camera, but eventually moved into digital photography. And I had better equipment and interchangeable lenses. [00:10:41] But better equipment wasn't the most important thing I learned. [00:10:46] I took a photography class. [00:10:49] The instructor told us to go out and find one subject, didn't matter what it was, take one picture and come back and let him look at that picture. [00:11:03] I found a lone tree on a hillside, and I took the picture. [00:11:11] Went back to the instructor, and he fired up his laptop, looked at it, and told me, that's a good picture, but it's not a great picture. [00:11:23] Not the best picture you could have gotten. [00:11:27] So I asked him, how could I make it better? [00:11:33] His answer was pretty simple. [00:11:36] Change your perspective. [00:11:39] He told me to return to the same spot and take another photograph. [00:11:44] Then move one step to the right, keeping the tree centered as the main focus, and take another picture. [00:11:54] He told me to continue that for 10 steps and take a picture each time. [00:12:03] Then he told me to return to the original position and do the same thing, moving to the left. [00:12:11] I went back and did what he said. [00:12:16] When I returned with the pictures, he began scrolling through them. [00:12:23] And suddenly, as I was watching the pictures go by, one of them jumped out to me. [00:12:29] It did him too, and he said, that's a great picture. [00:12:37] He then asked me what I'd changed. [00:12:41] It wasn't a different tree. [00:12:44] It wasn't even a different camera. [00:12:47] The important change wasn't shutter speed or focus. [00:12:52] I'd simply changed my perspective. [00:12:58] The thing is, I'd gone through that process myself. [00:13:03] I didn't simply know what the instructor meant. [00:13:07] I understood it. [00:13:09] I had gained experience. [00:13:13] I've remembered that lesson ever since it happened. [00:13:20] And I've discovered that changing our perspective to can make a difference in a lot more than simply photography. [00:13:29] How about you? [00:13:32] Have you ever looked at the same situation from a different perspective and suddenly seen something you couldn't see before? [00:13:46] When I think about that photography lesson and the oven door I touched when I was a little boy, I realized those experiences happened a decade apart. [00:14:00] But maybe they aren't all that different. [00:14:04] As a little boy, someone told me the oven was hot. [00:14:09] I touched it, and I understood what hot really meant. [00:14:17] Years later, when I took that photography class, the instructor told me to change my perspective. [00:14:26] I moved and took photos and discovered what he meant. [00:14:34] In both those situations, someone had given me information. [00:14:39] But it was really the experience that changed my understanding. [00:14:45] And perhaps that's something worth remembering. [00:14:50] Having an experience and understanding an experience aren't necessarily the same thing. [00:15:01] The fact is, we may have years of experience doing something, but does that automatically mean we've continued to learn and grow? [00:15:18] Think about someone who's done the same job for 20 years. [00:15:24] Do they have 20 years of growth and learning? [00:15:29] Or could they have one year of experience repeated 19 times? [00:15:38] Now, repetition isn't necessarily a bad thing. [00:15:44] Sometimes repetition helps us become more proficient at whatever we're doing. [00:15:53] But the thing I wonder about is if there's a difference between repeating an experience and learning something new from it. [00:16:05] Maybe the difference has something to do with whether we're actually paying attention. [00:16:13] Are we simply doing what we've always done? [00:16:17] Or are we occasionally asking ourselves whether there's something we could understand better, something we could change, or maybe something we might do differently? [00:16:32] Our experiences aren't limited to our jobs. [00:16:36] They're happening every day now. [00:16:41] Sometimes it's a big experience. [00:16:46] Some of them may be grand. [00:16:49] They may actually change the direction of our lives and we'll remember those experiences forever. [00:17:01] But others may be so ordinary that if we're not paying attention, they simply ruffle our hair as they go by. [00:17:14] The thing is that maybe those ordinary experiences are worth paying attention to as well as the big experiences. [00:17:26] I'd like to ask you to do something. [00:17:29] Take a few minutes and think about the last two or three experiences you've had. [00:17:36] Now, they don't have to be big experiences or life changing moments. [00:17:43] It could be something that happened at work, a conversation with someone, something you tried, something that didn't work, or simply something that happened during an ordinary day. [00:18:07] Think about what one of those experiences taught you. [00:18:13] Did it change the way you think? [00:18:17] Did it change the way you see something? [00:18:21] Is there something you might do differently the next time? [00:18:26] And maybe most importantly, how can we use what we've learned from our experiences as we move forward toward becoming who we're intended to be? [00:18:45] We have to remember that our experiences aren't simply a record of where we've been. [00:18:53] They're part of what we carry with us as we move forward in our lives. [00:19:00] They could change how we see where we are and what we choose to do with them can help shape who we're becoming. [00:19:14] Here's the thing. Maybe experience isn't only about what happened to us. [00:19:20] Maybe it's also about what we do with what happened to us. [00:19:26] Again, just something to think about. [00:19:32] Before we finish today. [00:19:34] Let me leave you with a thought. [00:19:40] Every possibility we reach began with something we first imagined. [00:19:48] And when imagination is joined by experience, desire and preferences. [00:19:57] Possibilities have a way of becoming reality. [00:20:04] Until next time, stay humble, be kind, love unconditionally and laugh often. [00:20:13] Remember that your future belongs to you and never forget this. [00:20:20] You are enough, you are worthy and you are seen as always. I wish you much success. [00:20:33] Have a super day and may God bless you in a super way. [00:20:41] Thanks again and God bless.

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